"Klaus Schmoll" (klausschmoll)
09/30/2015 at 14:44 • Filed to: None
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"Klaus Schmoll" (klausschmoll)
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The Citroen HY vans have no oil filter, and therefore need to be serviced every 1200 miles. Well, Citroen always had a penchant for doing things differently, but on a commercial vehicle that has to earn its keep this is simply unacceptable. Makes it even a bigger wonder that the production run lasted from ‘47 to ‘81.
Berang
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 14:47 |
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I think back in the day when cars had about 12,000 grease nipples and oiling points, a 1200 mile oil change probably didn’t seem like a lot of extra hassle. Most cars in the 40s didn’t have oil filters, and I don’t think the VW beetle ever got one for as long as it was sold in the U.S. (‘77 last year).
ly2v8-Brian
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 14:51 |
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No filter was common practice back when it was introduced. Towards the end... thats just a French thing I guess.
Party-vi
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 14:54 |
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How often would you need to change the oil in this if you’re running around Paris?
Noah - Now with more boost.
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 15:01 |
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Maybe this practice was more common in the mid-20th century, and they just went with it until the end of the production run? That’s really strange. Now I’ll be on the lookout for similar designs.
JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 15:19 |
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other vehicles of note that lack an oil filter:
virtually every internal-combustion engine pre-1923.
almost all non-high-end-luxury vehicles pre-1930.
most mass-production vehicles pre-1940.
optional only on many engines prior to the 1955 profliferation of the spin-on filter.
Porsche 356.
-Part of the reasoning is that early oil formulations didn’t last very long and the suggested change interval was only 1000, or sometimes 1200 miles. In that period, only the dirtiest or most broken of engines would actually *NEED* filtering... as longer-life oil formulations became available and trucking companies looked into reducing maintenance costs bypass filter systems became popular on industrial engines and were adopted by luxury marquees as a “high-tech feature” later many companies began offering optional ad-on oil filters, buth OEM and third-party. It wasn’t until the Wicks Filter Company invented and patented a *PRACTICAL* (I make this distinction because there were other, less useful designs before then) spin-on oil filter in 1955 that they started to become standard equipment on just about everything on the road.
Some manufactures, like Porsche, chose to not offer a factory filter even then in the belief that the filter could restrict vital oil flow in their high-performance engines, as well as adding undesired weight, bulk and complexity.
Others, like VW chose to eschew the oil filter for cost reasons.
(also, those Citroen OHV 4 cylinders are lightly-stressed and very reliable little engines!)
Van Man, rocks the Man Van
> Klaus Schmoll
09/30/2015 at 15:44 |
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I don't know about you, but I think that's a fantastic looking van.
twochevrons
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
09/30/2015 at 20:56 |
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Kudos for the emphasis on “practical.” My 1956 MGA has an old fashioned separate-element-type oil filter, and changing it is a ridiculous ordeal: opening it up involves several springs, o-rings, banjo fittings and a whole lot of mess, and to reassemble it, you have to hold the assembly together against spring pressure while simultaneously threading it into the block and trying to make sure that all the fittings line up as they’re supposed to.
The rest of the car is a joy to work on, but they really dropped the ball on the filter.